rofl. This thread has gotten too funny. You do know Seer, that the military has often given Honorably Discharge papers to people they want out and who were NOT really good soldiers, don't you? We would all like to believe that the words Honorably Discharged meant just that, but it doesn't. It just meant you weren't bad enough to go thru all the hastle of getting a Dishonorable Discharge.

If you read about McVey, he became disenchanted with the military. So he won a Bronze Star along with so many others, the numbers of which I will not try to quote.

McVey was a nutcase and he found others who believed like he did (Dr Bowman National Commander to the Patriots). His brain went into terrorist mode and instead of trying to do something legally about what he didn't like in our government he felt the need to murder and destroy innocent lives.

Oh, and btw, he wasn't a Muslem. Just a good ole American homegrown variety.