Maybe it's a half-full/half-empty comparison; I prefer to think of the successful liars and collaborators as DIShonorable exceptions to an ideal norm of independent journalism. Gene

I wish I could agree with you on it being an exception to an ideal norm of independent journalism but as long as the masses get 99% of their news from TV, radio and newspapers and it is at the least 75% crap and lies and untruths, I hardly call that an exception.

Are their honest or attempting to be honest journalist out there who are seeking to find the real facts/truths? Sure but they are few and far between and the major networks avoid them like the plague. They are all seeking the big bucks and their owners are primarily right leaning Republicans and/or neocons who care little for fact or truth.