<< I would say he's much closer to a neo-conservative than true or traditional conservative.>>

 True, but isn't that, by definition, changing the meaning of what a conservative is?

 You have paleo-conservatives and neo-conservatives but both are considered conservatives.

<<How would you define Obama (even though I really don't want this thread to turn into an Obama thread).>>

 To me, he is in the same mold as Clinton. Not a classic liberal of the 70's mold. He is a DLC(?) type.


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