Sure ERB. You know this as fact just like you know, as fact, that the plant closure Ryan was talking about is just as Ryan said even when the Governor of the State admitted it closed before Obama took office. I don't think you have ever been through a plant closure and have no idea what happens when one of this size shuts down. I have and I know it closes long before they actually lock the doors but hey, what do I know. I was just one of the 5 that walked out as they were literally locking the doors and gates for the last time, which was several months AFTER the plant closed.