bangs head on keyboard. yes. exactly.

its always been my opinion that once you realize the other person doesnt get it and will never get it, the more controlled of the two will quit. that puts him or her on reasonable ground in the opinion of other posters. the person who relents because its a lost cause wins just because they knew it was fruitless.

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What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?

Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), "Non-Violence in Peace and War"