Yes, Obama still would have gotten the nomination because he has something you can't buy. He has that elusive quality called charisma and a lot of it. You may not see it, some didn't see it in Kennedy either but most saw it.

You can't win an election when one person has it and the other does not or even if both have it but one has more of it. Its a powerful thing because with charisma comes a degree of intelligence which puts you in the electable category.

Hillary was a woman Obama was a black man. Both would have made history. One had a ton of charisma.

If Hillary runs in 2016 you can just wave goodbye to all the other candidates cause if she remains healthy and she wants it, its hers to have.

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What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?

Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), "Non-Violence in Peace and War"