I never suggested that the House budget means this is the way it must be, anymore than I would accept that the budget the president submitted means that is how things must be.


I'm sorry. I thought it was part of the discussion where Bacchys and I were wondering why the GOP had not responded to Barack's proposal, one that matched the budget he submitted back in February, and that he campaigned on.

They have since responded with a proposal that they know that Obama will not accept, just as he put out a proposal he knew they would not accept.  So, at this point in the negotiation, we're even steven, regardless of how many other unacceptable and unpassable budget plans the House Radicals have passed.

The point, in a split Congress, is both the House and the Senate writing and passing budgets is each party lays out its budget priorities and the compromise is then hammered out during reconciliation of the two bills. The resultant compromise then has to be passed by both houses before being sent to the president for executive approval.


Yes, that's some of what happens.

What's going on now is also some of what happens.

The Democratic Senate, refusing to write, pass and submit a budget for reconciliation has short-circuited this process.


Yes, that's mostly true. And that's why we're doing this thing now, and not the other thing.

I am just sick and tired of smug Democrats complaining the Repubicans won't give any serious details for ideas on how to solve the country's fiscal woes when it is exactly the opposite in the Congress.


And yet Boehner didn't use the budget that they passed in Congress when responding to the president's proposal. I believe this signals quite clearly that he knows that it ain't gonna fly.

So, whatever details we might imagine are in the Ryan budget, they are not in the current proposal from the Speaker of the House.