jraeyre wrote:
<<Nothing in the Bill of Rights has been interpreted so far as to prevent holding someone hours upon hours in an interrogation booth while teams of interrogators drill him or her over and over and over- and even outright lie about the evidence against them while doing so.>>

Last I knew, I can request a lawyer represent me in any questioning and I don't have to answer any questions until that time.  Am I wrong???
You can.  They can also hold you in that interrogation cell for hours and hours without questioning you.  Further, if you're there under the mistaken belief you aren't a suspect, they're going to play on that in order to prevent you from invoking your right to an attorney.

They don't have to show you the evidence that they have while they are questioning you, which is one thing the above list requires.  Instead, they can tell you the lab reports came back and prove you did it, or your buddy in the other interrogation room has just fingered you as the only culprit.

Your right to remain silent only protects you if you speak to tell them you wish to remain silent, and a demand for an attorney during questioning only matters if you demand it.  If you don't, then they can and will grill you until they get the answers they want.   That's not allowed under the LEO bill of rights.  The duration of the questioning isn't dependent on whether or not counsel is present.  It flatly limits questioning to "a reasonable length of time."

Again, if it's necessary for them in order for due process, why isn't it necessary for the rest of us?


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