"Yeah, that stimulus bill...lol... just like the patriot act that was not read before it 'had to pass' to 'protect' us..."

One doesn't excuse the other, but that's how you guys like to play the game. I would like my representative to read a bill before voting and if not then they shouldn't vote on it regardless of party. It seems that the liberals in here are more partisan than they believe they are. It boils down to when they did it it wasn't good, but when we do it, it's ok.

 Question to treb:

"do you think obama is absolutely truthful with everything he says"

Answer from treb:

"Yes. And there's a huge difference between untruthful and mistaken"