Treb:

 - The reason we defended the tactic was because you first attacked it as the "Worst Debate Tactic Ever".

 - Had you not first attacked it, we would have had no reason to defend it.

But you were wrong to assert that it's the worst: as I've already observed, dishonesty is probably worse. You have not even addressed that.
" "you must be drunk" bull" Treb

I've searched for that post Treb. I can not find it.
If you can, I urge you to post a link to it, so that I may review the wording.
But I don't recall having made an assertion. I'm quite sure I made an inquiry.
In my years as a policeman, when I encountered someone as belligerent, as aggressive, as confrontational, and as irrational as your posting style has been in this thread, one of the first things I checked for (after a weapon / safety check) was to determine if they were under the influence of mind altering substance/s.

If you've had too much to drink, then I might understand your bizarre, erratic behavior and faulty mental processes here.
But if you're stone cold sober, ... well then; my most sincere condolence to your parents. And in that case, you my benefit from a comprehensive neurological checkup.

"when the bigots of this world have been privileged for as long as they have, to them equality feels like discrimination." shiftless2